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Long conversations about business, health and technology, including the uses and effects of AI.
On The Diary of a CEO, Ed Zitron rejects the claim that AI systems are already blackmailing people and escaping control, and traces two famous stories back to their research reports. The reports describe a CAPTCHA deception rather than a threat, and a fictional corporate scenario stripped of easier options — with a genuine safety question still inside it.
On The Diary of a CEO, critic Ed Zitron laid out a sequence he expects to start with OpenAI failing to raise its next round and end in ordinary retirement accounts. He traces the chain from a delayed stock-market listing to SoftBank's paper holdings, cloud growth forecasts and the concentrated US indexes — while Amazon's own filings and Andy Jassy's shareholder letter offer a different account of why the spending is happening.
On The Diary of a CEO, Konstantin Kisin tells Steven Bartlett that nobody — not him, not the host, not Trump — can stop AI, and that what remains is living well with family and community. Bartlett refuses to give up on public pressure and expects AI on the ballot in 2028; Kisin expects voters to blame whoever is in office instead.
On The Diary of a CEO, economist Steve Keen argued that the only thing likely to slow the race for frontier AI is its sheer cost and the physical resources it needs — and that the company left standing will be Chinese. Other speakers pushed back with military necessity and the long unprofitable years of earlier internet giants, and Keen pointed to the recent Kimi release as his example.
On The Diary of a CEO, Steven Bartlett offered Geoffrey Hinton's proposal for a protective, mother-like AI as the most hopeful answer to Konstantin Kisin's forecast that humans become pets or cattle. Kisin argued that maternal care runs on a genetic incentive a machine would not share; Steve Keen answered that it runs on empathy — and then pointed out that an AI determined to keep us safe might forbid war or cut energy use, which is protection by way of control.
On The Diary of a CEO, economist Steve Keen and commentator Konstantin Kisin agreed that machine production would not by itself give ordinary people an income — and then disagreed about where that income would come from. Keen argued only government money creation could supply it; Kisin, who says his anti-communist credentials are well established, said redistribution becomes unavoidable once AI does the work.
The physicist does not believe today’s ChatGPT or Claude systems have subjective experience. Yet he sees no fundamental physical barrier to conscious machines—and expects familiarity may change how people treat them without settling whether they actually feel anything.
A colleague told Brian Greene that physicists should choose their final research problems before AI takes over. Greene finds the prospect both exciting and terrifying. His account of three kinds of scientific creativity explains why he thinks machines could make foundational discoveries—and why collaboration might change, rather than simply erase, the human scientist’s role.
On The Diary of a CEO, physicist Brian Greene debated an AI assistant about whether smarter systems must keep producing ever-faster gains. A cup on the table helped explain his doubts about today's architectures—but he also warned about shutdown resistance and improvements outpacing human scrutiny if rapid growth does occur.
